Is the biggest joke I have ever heard of and have seen! Frank is nothing more then a man who goes to New Holland Horse Auctions every Monday and buys 20-30 horses for $10-$50 a piece then turns around and sells them on his auction every Wednesday for $150.00-$600.00 or more. It is funny because Frank IS NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED TO SHIP ANY HORSE TO SLAUGHTER! He does not have permits to do so nor does he work with any slaughter bound transporter who moves horses to Canada or Mexico boarders.
This situation makes me livid. You have people that can't give away legit horses - broke, sound, and from honest owners that just can't afford them anymore, yet you have the masses flocking to pay $600 a pop for sale barn horses.
Maybe I should be doing it. I could buy up a small herd of $10 horses and say they are going to slaughter. Since, you know, from my other post, that the KBs are taking all those skinny little things.
Camelot Horses to be euthanized YET Frank is asking US for OUR HARD EARNED MONEY to put theses horses down. I have a solution! It is called a point blank bullet to the head. I have many spares laying around. I wonder if they would like three of them!?
Also anyone who wants a good laugh at how fucking gullible people are, specially when it comes to "saving" a none "saveable" animal, please do read and enjoy!
Want to know the REAL truth about Frank and his fake "Kill Pen Auction"?
Please read the following:
Gentle Giants Draft Horse Rescue
Camelot IN OUR OPINION is a big scam. I'm NOT saying those involved in helping are aware of this, or are not doing what they feel is right. Please don't say we are "bashing" anyone. But if you examine the inner factual workings of a "Broker Lot", which is what Camelot really is, you will see in the grand scheme it actually hurts more horses than it helps.
Here's how Camelot works: Frank Carper owns the Camelot Auction. Every Monday he goes to New Holland and buys about 25-30 horses. Then he takes them home and consigns them to his Wednesday night Camelot Auction sale in NJ. He "bids" on the horse, which he actually owns, to the price he wants. Then he puts it on his "feed lot" and the rescue girls put pictures up screaming its going to go to slaughter. Since Frank is so great, you only have to pay $50 over what he "paid" for the horse.
So if Frank buys horse X at New Holland for $115, then runs it through his sale Wednesday and bids himself up to $375, and it gets posted online as being able to be "saved" for $50 more, that's a total of $425. So Frank just made $310 on that horse in three days. Multiply that by 25-30. Each week. That's a lot of money.
Any horses who don't get "saved" simply get re-sold back at New Holland. I know Frank from the auction circuit and Frank isn't a meat dealer, he has never held a contract with a slaughterhouse EVER and he hasn't even sold a horse to a meat dealer since Cavel closed in 2007. The whole thing is a money making scam, and the real tragedy is the well meaning homes who take these horses and then find them horribly misrepresented and have no place to go with them. A large group on the ABR chat board have been tracking how many are ending up at other auctions and on Craigslist.
I've turned away more Camelot "saves" that their new homes felt weren't as represented than I can count. I hate having to tell the homes that they made a conscious choice to buy a horse online sight unseen, and now they have to step to the plate and be the responsible owner. Get it trained, or get yourself training. Half of these homes I've talked to are beyond beginners who have no clue and shouldn't even be owning a horse yet, they should be volunteering or in a good lesson barn learning care and basic horsemanship. Many just end up dumping the horse because its not what they expected, and it doesn't take long for the thrill of "the save" to wear off when Flicka is kicking, biting, rearing or bucking.
So Frank is getting RICH, the horses were never even at risk, and lots of homes are getting guilted into "saving" over-priced horses who aren't at all suitable for their needs.
I just wish people would support reputable rescues and ADOPT a horse who has been evaluated, vetted, trained, and is guaranteed to be as described, rather than spend twice that amount and have a nightmare on their hands. If the rescues of the world had all these homes scooping up our trained, vetted, and evaluated horses, maybe we could go actually save some more.
Frank sits at New Holland and openly laughs and jokes about buying up the cheap horses for those "bleedin' heart rescue people", because they all need to be "saved". His favorite line is "I don't know if the horse needs savin', but my check book sure does!"
Please think about the long term effects of supporting Camelot's Broker Lot, and similar programs like the Moore Broker Lot in PA. Our well meaning rescue community is lining the pockets of nefarious horse dealers, who laugh all the way to bank on our hard earned money. Meanwhile, the real horses at risk suffer daily.
Please consider- Adopt from a reputable rescue who outbids in the sale ring, and doesn't pay a dealer a profit.
Go to an auction and buy a horse yourself in the same manner. Contact a local rescue, they will likely show you how if not even go with you.
Take a needy horse off of your local Craigslist, and keep it out of the auction ring altogether.
We won't spend a dime of our donors money making a horse dealer rich, and we hope you won't be manipulated to as well.
Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions, I will do my best to answer them all. Again, these are simply our opinions and observations of the darker inner workings of Broker Lots.
Christine Hajek, President and Founder
Gentle Giants Draft Horse Rescue
Camelot ... What Am I Missing? It looks like a bonus round profit center to me
UPDATE OCT 11, 2011
Amazing what happens when the TRUTH comes out. Lights fires under peoples asses, that's what!
by Camelot Horse Weekly on Sunday, October 9, 2011 at 8:57pm
UPDATE 10/11 12:41pm:
REGARDING THE EUTHANSIA OF HORSES AT CAMELOT -Due to the controversy over these horses the decision has been made to refund all money and let Camelot decide how to destroy them. The previous owner of 657 and 658 will be asked to deal with Camelot directly. We thank those of you who have and continue to support us.
The fate of the horses is now OUT of the hands of HHER and CHW. We are hoping that the owners of 657 & 658 will be contacting Camelot directly to make arrangements for them.
For those of you who have been supportive of an impossible situation, please accept our sincere Thank You.
If you donated through paypal and did not get a refund please contact the Helping Hearts email address on the paypal receipt.
UDPATE 10/11 11:08AM:
In regard to the Euthanasia Issue:
CHW has collected all necessary funds.
This morning a representative of the farm where 657 and 658 came from contacted us.
They have supplied the funds to humanely euthanize these two horses. They agree with the choices that have been made for the horses. She apologized profusely for this mess.
They had trusted someone who assured them that he would be bringing them to a “rehoming sale run by a rich lady, and if the horses didn’t find wonderful new homes the the rehoming sale, the rich lady would take them into her gorgeous farm to live out their lives”. They paid this person to bring these horses in; they personally saw NONE of the funds generated by their sale to Camelot. They were scammed.
She did not contact us sooner because by the time they heard about it, they thought that the horses were gone/shipped on Saturday. She was relieved to hear that the horses had not shipped and that they had the ability to ensure a peaceful passing.
These horses will be put to rest today. The time will NOT be posted, as no-one wants a circus for their final moments. A representative of CHW will be present, proof of the humane veterinary euthanasia will be provided.
This has been an extremely difficult situation, and while we understand the emotional issue this is, we had hoped and continue to hope that people would be able to disagree but still treat each other with respect. Thank you to those of you who have.
In regard to the $660 overage of funds collected, What we suggest is that the overage be applied to pulling a horse so that it can go to CHW registered rescue that has the ability to intake -- If not this week, then in a following week. Helping Hearts is removing themselves from the pool of possible rescues, to avoid accusations of impropriety. If any donors would like a refund out of the $660, please email Helping Hearts (use the paypal receipt) and advise prior to noon today. After that, we will be transferring the funds out of Paypal to take care of the arrangements
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